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This elven lady made creatures so monstrous, the gods themsleves didnt want to deal with them. And so they made her a god just to get kill of the things they feared? This lady a Legend!!

Do you think the Blight, the “disease” itself, is a result of the Veil, and part of why Solas is trying to do a Hard Reset on the world?

Wait, what if she made the Qunari from elven slaves and Dragons?

If Andraste is Andruil i will shit

This guy is accully in the Veil but it doesnt move

Hearing Alistair's name in Solas' voice gives me tingles🎉😮🎉😮🎉

Dragon Age : the Veilguard Just confirmed this....2024

This aged well 😁

Called it tho.

The deformed darkspawn reminds me of the Architect. Was he created by Ghilan'nain in her laboratory in the deep roofs? Although his name suggests a certain position of authority. Perhaps he was one of her finer creations? I’m theorizing the Architect could’ve been the Igor to Ghilan'nain’s Dr. Frankenstein.

I def think the Old gods are the Evanuris and they have been corrupted by the blight. In Dalish lore the huntress goddess went mad hunting the Forgotten Ones in the void. I say the Blight comes from the void. She is the one that initially brought the blight back, the other "gods" saw how powerful it made her deapite her apparent madness and god greedy so started experimenting with it and ended up corrupted themselves. Mythal ends up murdered. Cue rebellion of Solas. And their imprisonment in Arlathan and in the fade. The golden city turns black from blight . Elves start aging and losing their magic and then the "old gods" start whispering from the fade to humans.

Anyone else watching in 2024, after they just confirmed that Ghilan’nain is going to be one of the villains of DA4?

You were right lol

If Solas succeeds the next game should have a double blight.

Time to come back sweetie

its seems its confirmed now . the devs mentioned a double blight and Solas free by mistake 2 elven gods . and both were in the capital of tevinter .

think: there are two kinds of elven gods: The creation ones who were typically nicer, while the others were darker and more manipulative. One group sought a weapon in Heaven (“the seat of the maker”. The other sought the weapon in the depths (the deep roads where the archdemons can be found). before solas sealed them away.

Did you notice in the picture with the snake centipede lady one of the people she’s attacking has a gold prosthetic leg? Makes me think she’s what came out the veil

I just found your channel and it's fantastic. What are your thoughts now that we saw Ghilan'nain and Elgar'nan (allegedly) coming out of the failed ritual Solas was doing. Do you think that Ghilan'nain aspect matches all her experiments and legends surrounding her?

I really want to see your reaction to the DAV gameplay trailer because i think we are dealing with Gylly and another elvin god in DAV.

I forgot that the Elvin can shape shift into dragons, similar to a certain witch we know and the mother of Morgan. I already know that she’s an Elvin god. and can transform into a dragon. My theory is Elvin Gods ruled over the elves, dwarfs, and humans either a servants or slaves, until dread wolf put up the veil to separate them from this world. and they were trapped in the veil. Thousands of years later , the elves ruled most of the world enslaved, the other races. Until the first dark spawn/mages went into the holy city of the maker, and probably experimented with dark magic and experimented on the Elvin Gods turning them into archdemons, and experimented on other life forms, creating the dark spawn, releasing them into the world, and probably tried to conquer the world until they were defeated. By the Greywardens . But that’s mostly a theory.

Me, I wouldn’t be surprised if the old gods, were the Elvin gods, and it is possible that the dread wolf/Solas is the maker that the humans worshiped. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the dread wolf helped Andraste free humanity from Elvin rule and overthrow Elvin Gods too, and put up Veil. And why he called the dread wolf/the maker, because he literally betrayed his own kind for humans. but they never met him in person and don’t even know his name. Because the human just assumed the maker was a god , and in a sense there correct just he’s Elvin one/and why called the dread wolf, which is an insult from the elves. That he put up the veil

I really liked these statues you shown at the start. They are cthulhuesque but depending on the added details they could've look regal and angelic in the "Be no afraid" kinda way. When it comes to the Blight there is a huge possibility that even all the archdemons are gone, blight will remain...and with no old gods left and their calling, the darkspawn will flood outside the world, in aimless, endless hordes.

Woahhhh my goodness. This was great. I'm so happy to be watching these types of videos again 😁 I think these were definitely the gods in the new trailer. I think one of the devs hinted at something to do with the blight too.. 😮

I personally prefer the idea that the Old Gods are the fogotten ones. It doesn't shrink the world quite so much, and it also allows for the Forgotten Ones to be a bit more relevant to things. But consider another idea. The Old Gods are the forgotten ones, but unlike the Evanuris, they're closer to being actually Gods. Draconic spirits of unfathomable power who taught the Evanuris how to be the most powerful mages of all time. The Evanuris then betrayed them, locked them away and propped themselves up as the true gods of the elves. Their dragon forms are them replicating the true forms of their masters to give legitimacy to their Fen'Harel was the only one who wasn't a part of this betrayal and continued to be loyal to his masters and lover of all the lesser spirits. When Solas locked away the Evanuris, it weakened the seal on the Forgotten Ones/Old Gods who were able to begin speaking to humans in their dreams. They are much more cautious and reserved with the power they offer to the humans than they were with the Evanuris, because they fear being betrayed again. They try to lead the Magisters of Tevinter into the Golden City so that they can free themselves and kill the Evanuris, but the blight was left as a trap for them (probably by the Evanuris) thus corrupting them into the Archdemons. Most of this is just a neat idea, but I do have one, piece of evidence for this specifically. The Ancient Dwarven Thaig that is older than any other Thaig and predates humans in Thedas and yet has architecture that looks Tevinter. Dwarves are already nearly as old as the Ancient Elves already, and we don't really know how old this Thaig is compared to the history of the Dwarves. If it's as old as the Evanuris, then it could be an ancient Dwarven temple to the Forgotten Ones, whom they were also in contact with, separate from the Elves. Solas calls the Idol from that Thaig "his idol" which might mean he used it when visiting the dwarves and conducting rituals to learn from the Old Gods/Forgotten Ones.

Hello form June 2024) And we saw exact these two gods in the end of gamplay reveal trailer) And i think that's it, really 5 defeated acrhdemons were 5 elven gods, and two remaining will be back in the veilguard

I’ve been a big fan of the idea that the old gods aren’t the evenurus but were thier high priests or equivalent to them

Now...listening to your summary of Hormak has truly stirred my disgust and horror. Solas did the world really a favour locking away the Evanuris. But if they break free , imagine beings so twisted and perverse as these , after a captivity lasted for several thousands of years .Real nightmare fuel.

Every now and then i go down the dragon age rabbit hole and I'm here again lol. Anyways, ever since we discovered Solas was the Dreadwolf, his dialogue on wardens, archdemons, blights, etc, always linguered on me. Why is he so upset with the idea if taking out the old gods before they can become archdemons? It would prevent future blights, which is a very good thing no? The Orlesian Wardens just went about it all wrong (and were also dumbfoundedly manipulated). My only thought, is that he is familiar with the old gods in some way. Either they're creatures he used know, pre Veil. Spirts maybe. Or maybe even the Evanuris themselves. Then what I also wanted to bring up, the dreadwolf concept art. The one of the giant cthulu-esque monster, that strikes a very similar resemblance to those same Origins statues. I've seen a lot of theories running around that the concept art is of Ghilan'nain. All these theories on the evanuris, old god, titans, etc, live rent free in my head man. I need dreadwolf to come out and at least have some good lore dumps.

spoilers: considering what we know , how solas created the veil, separating our realm and the fade. that being said, it seems very likely that some of the elven gods, or the 'forgotten ones' (the dark version of the eleven pantheon) may have gotten trapped on the wrong side of the veil, or in the fade- and it seems very likely some of them might want to come back, right? and how might they do that? dark magic. and when you can pick the body, why not pick a dragon? or maybe it relates to tevintors already holding dragons in such high regards, maybe they had influence over how the old gods formed when summoned? ive thought about this a lot recently and did a bunch of research on gods and the elves and stuff- the gods werent even gods, just really powerful old elves who either presented themselves as such, or came to be misunderstood as such later. I also believe that the maker is the sun god the all father of the eleven gods is supposed to have overthrown. and I also dont think any of the gods that the world has considered gods, are even gods at all- like, none of them. 'the remaining gods' are just the 'elves' that remained loyal to the all father or remained accepted but there were two clans of eleven 'gods' the pantehon we know much about, and the forgotten ones, or the other pantheon, which solas traveled between, as in he was good with and accepted by both tribes

I don’t understand how Solas doesn’t age

Some translations that are interesting: “Mathas gar na fornen pa tot isatunoll” - The will of the Titans has bound us to our sorrowful duty of defending the Stone through sacrifice, the Call of red lyrium must be destroyed. “Mathas gar na fornen pa salroka atrast" - The will of the Titans has bound us to our sorrowful duty of defending the Stone through sacrifice, may you find your way and return to the Stone.

The lore setup from all 3 games has the potential to make Dreadwolf VERY successful if the writing is superb. I really, really do hope they land and deliver!

I always found Dirthamens statue being stabbed in the back interesting. We know he was the keeper of secrets, I'm wondering whether he was either responsible for the knowledge on how to kill Mythal or more likely he gave Solas the knowledge that led to his own entrapment. He was definitely betrayed in some way.

I have got this dialogue as well. don't be a salty egg because I caught you slipping, Solas

My belief, yes and no. The false Ghilan’nain was an evil mad scientist, the true Ghilan’nain was not. I do not believe the Evanauris were Gods, they were the God’s champions who grew in power and might, and soon they betrayed their owned Masters. They twisted the minds of the people, and made them forget the true Elven Gods. Branded them evil and waged war against them, forcing them beyond the Fade, beyond the Crossroads. many many realms the false deities forced the true Gods beyond and then sealed each door tightly shut as they withdrew. Leaving the true Gods stranded, yet, 1 did not get shut out. He was Fen’herel, he became stripped of much of who he was, he forgot his kindred or he merged with his champion, but the merge caused much of himself to be lost. Another “clawed and crawled her way through the ages” to a new champion, using much of her might to rip the barriers ever so slightly of a bit for her to slip through before they snapped shut again, this was Mythal. The others remain trapped, the Evanuris are trapped as well, but in a different place. Thus it was, Ghilan’nain was and was not evil, She was not, her champion who dared to steal Her name and title was. The Evanuris were not gods, but power hungry kings and queens who the Gods made a grave mistake in ever giving them even a taste of divinity. Yet, I believe Fen’herel will be restored, Mythal will be freed, and may the true elven Gods and the Evanuris return, this time, the Evanuris will cower before their former masters and their time will have quickly run out as the true Gods deal with their insubordinate children.

I LOVED Inquisition and always will, but one thing it missed was some horror/dark elements that the first games both had. I am really hoping we can see some of Ghil's monster's in Dreadwolf. I'm wondering if we may see a "beast in the sea" in Antiva or something.

Incredible vid

I remember thinking his lines about "My people" when Elf Inky was with him, was just Bioware having too much work to focus on the details. Later I figured you could explain it away with assuming he does not consider my Dalish elf to be of the 'same people' as him, which he admits outright in banter with Dorian?. And then I started to get confused, since if he does not consider himself 'City Elf' 'Dalish Elf' or even just 'Elf' then what does he consider himself at? It's only in hindsight I realized he only speaks about 'My people' when in the ancient Elvhen locations, like Mythal's Temple. Or when talking about ancient events. Quite nice. xP

The chapter on the watch time bar says Brazilian instead of Brecilian. 😂

I find the parallel between Ggilan'nain and the ancient mesopotamian Tiamat (and by extension greek Echidna) very interesting. They're both mother goddesses that "birthed" monsters upon the world, but also created mundane animals, namely fish and reptiles in the case of Tiamat.

27:12 isn't this supplanted by DA:I lore? The elven gods saw their people as servants and expendable. And we have lots of evidence linking dragons to the elven gods.

Dragon age is one of those stories that cause me to kinda get the feeling that even the writers don't fully yet know it all. Maybe it has been left open so they can write the story in any direction they are required to without needing to retcon or contradict anything.

I think they used to be guardians connected to Mythal, similar to the shrine guardian in inquisition that acted as her avatars. She's overflowing in dragon iconography quite specifically, and were likely put in to slumber by the Evanirus when they betrayed Mythal. OR possibly a gift from Mythal at first to the Evanirus... Or possibly just guardian dragons slumbering since Mythal's death. They'd make extremely powerful possession targets and a suitable form for an evil god-king/queen in their eyes, and as a bonus insults Mythal. The blight and the darkspawn is their influence and a method for controlling their former Thedas despite being limited and trapped in the Black City. We also can't forget that Tevinter is extremely close to where Arlathan was, there's mentions of the forest remains being haunted.. Ripping Arlathan in to the fade left a weak spot in the veil that the Evanirus were able to utilize and trick Tevinter in to worshipping them, using Tevinter to take vengeance on the surviving elves, eventually leading to the crappy times elves had post-veil. All the while digging for Mytha's guardians to destroy the world. So yeah that's my theory. I started typing and couldn't stop.

The fact we see elven ruins in the deep roads I think the city was definitely sunk. And then Solas created a barrier to stop people finding it and stopping the gods from leaving but when a blight starts it’s because darkspawn find them in the city sleeping.

I don’t understand Solas he goes on and on about avenging Mythal…. Then kills her himself at the end of Trespasser

When this happend to me first time I gave the same question and wondered why is he disapproving when I ask him something ? Blud usually loves questions.

I have no idea why it took 2 years for this video to hit my suggestions. I am almost constantly looking for and watching DA lore theories. And I also don't know why it was your reminder about the codex entry about the beasts of sky, land, and sea that made "she created the griffons" when it mentions she destroyed all but one that she created for Andruil... I may be wrong, of course, but I definitely think it's the case. Along with the fact that I believe she is responsible for the qunari as we know them today. Ghil is the main reason I am hoping DAD does these old tales justice. They've set her up to be amazing, whether it's amazingly villainous, or amazingly heroic.